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rumbarrel	? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit		Lead	[-]
Member Posts: 13 02/23/08 10:49	Got a quick question for anyone who has dealt a Pot Limit event at the WSOP........do you stack the chips in the pot to help keep track of whats in the pot, or do they prefer you just keep track in your head? (which, even for me who has good math aptitude, would be difficult.) Also, do you stack chips in the pot, during play, for the HI / LO split games? thanks in advance for your replies.
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Psand	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#1	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 1038 02/24/08 02:41 Moderator	You do not stack the chips for a Pot Limit Game. Keeping track of a pot size should not be that difficult. I understand how it may sometimes be difficult to quickly calculate a pot size raise but keeping track of what is in the center should never be hard. And if the players see you have to stack the chips to count the pot they will start giving you shit. In a high Low split game you do stack the chips.
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rumbarrel	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#2	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 13 02/24/08 10:03	thanks Psand, i appreciate the reply. Man, those players can be rough, eh? I was curious since I am coming down there to audition next month. Like I said, I do have good math aptitude, so I shouldn't have a problem. I just wanted to know so if I am asked to audition on a pot limit game, I'll know what they expect of me. Is there anything else I should know that might help me to pass my audition? I am actually quite confident that I WILL pass, as a few of my friends who played last year came back with some horror stories of how weak some of the dealers were last year!! I sure would appreciate any advice or tips that might help my chances though.
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Psand	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#3	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 1038 02/24/08 10:23 Moderator	Harrah's is very insistent that you keep the muck on the left hand side. Don't forget to release your deck twice once after shuffling before cutting and once after cutting and before picking up the deck. I know many of us sort of shorten that up, but there should be two full releases. Don't use your free hand to readjust the deck after you pick it up. thats a habit I often see which I know they are watching for at WSOP auditions. I assume these auditions will be done in groups with other prospective dealers sitting in as players. When you are sitting as a player in this type of audition... don't go out of your way to make things difficult for your fellow dealers. New deaqlers do thius nonsense all the time. Just fold your hand, if the auditioners want someone to play let two players play the pot and make the minimal actions. There is no need to try to force a dealer auditioning in pot limit omaha to set up seven side pots. No need to check out in a stud game to try to see if the dealer remembers to deal to the empty spot.
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rumbarrel	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#4	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 13 02/24/08 10:31	"No need to check out in a stud game to try to see if the dealer remembers to deal to the empty spot." What do you mean by this?
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rumbarrel	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#5	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 13 02/24/08 10:34	"There is no need to try to force a dealer auditioning in pot limit omaha to set up seven side pots." This brings to mind a question.....in a PL game, if there ARE side pots and someone bets "POT", i assume ALL pots are included in the calculation. Is this correct?
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rumbarrel	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#6	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 13 02/24/08 10:35	and one more question....will they give us any info on THEIR procedures to review before we audition?
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Psand	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#7	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 1038 02/24/08 10:38 Moderator	In a stud game if a player checks out, you continue dealing to that spot until there has been a bet made. example 3 players in a pot. Player 1 checks out on 4th street. Player 2 and 3 check Now on 5th street you deal a card to player 1 (even though he already folded) Now if on 5th street someone bets you don't deal a card to player 1 on 6th street, but if it checks around you would.
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Psand	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#8	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 1038 02/24/08 10:40 Moderator	*Quote:* and one more question....will they give us any info on THEIR procedures to review before we audition? They probably will give you a quick rundown on what they are looking for. BTW I would not come to town to deal the WSOP unless I couldn't get any other work.
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rumbarrel	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#9	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 13 02/24/08 10:58	"BTW I would not come to town to deal the WSOP unless I couldn't get any other work." Why do you say this?
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rumbarrel	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#10	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 13 02/24/08 11:05	the WSOP is going to be my "LAST HURRAH" in the casino business. or should i say my "LAST HARRAH"? lol after the WSOP is done, I plan on a career change into truck driving. I am entering my mid-life crisis :-) and am ready to try something new. I have been in the gaming industry for almost 30 years, the last 4 dealing poker. I just need to make some money before I embark on my new journey. I think dealing in the WSOP would be an awesome way to end my gaming career, don't you? I know it will be a tough 6 weeks of working hard and long hours, but for the money, I can endure.
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Psand	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#11	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 1038 02/24/08 11:06 Moderator	If you search this forum you will see I have posted on this before. I dealt in 2006 and felt that I was badly treated by Harrah's, I felt as though Harrah's had stolen a lot of dealer money, and I made much less than i expected to. Based on speaking with experienced dealers who had dealt the series for many years in 2006 we made about 60% of what they usually made (think about it--biggest world series ever and the dealers made 40% less) If you are currently working steady think about how much more you have to earn just to pay for the expenses of traveling and living in Vegas during the event.
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rumbarrel	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#12	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 13 02/24/08 11:39	if i may ask, approx. what did you make in 06, and how many hours a day, average, did you work? any days off during?
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Psand	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#13	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 1038 02/24/08 06:42 Moderator	I will PM you with details.
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rumbarrel	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#14	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 13 02/24/08 06:57	thanks
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mmassmedia	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 12 02/26/08 06:15	PSAND PM me some of your figures for 05 and 06)weeks - hrs -tokes). I worked 07 and the condintions were muched improved from what most other dealers that worked 06 had said. Harrahs seem do get it closer to right than the prevoius year. Being that it was my 1st I don' thave a reference point.
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mmassmedia	Re: ? for anyone who's dealt at the WSOP-Pot Limit	#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 12 02/26/08 06:21	Audition last year was Pot Limit Holdem 7 Stud Hi/Lo Triple Draw 2-7 I would also say about 30 percent of the dealer were really good last year. 50 percent were average. And the bottom 20 percent below average to awful.
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seanof30306		#17	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 167 03/07/08 04:17	rumbarrel wrote: "No need to check out in a stud game to try to see if the dealer remembers to deal to the empty spot." What do you mean by this? By "check out", he means folding when there is no bet to them. Player 1 checks Player 2 checks Player 3 folds Player 4 checks. Even though player 3 has folded, you still deal cards to that seat (the hand is dead). If you didn't, it would change the order of the deal, and the cards the other players got. You keep dealing cards to that seat until someone bets. At thet point, you pull the cards in and stop dealing to that seat.
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seanof30306		#18	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 167 03/07/08 04:21	rumbarrel wrote: "There is no need to try to force a dealer auditioning in pot limit omaha to set up seven side pots." This brings to mind a question.....in a PL game, if there ARE side pots and someone bets "POT", i assume ALL pots are included in the calculation. Is this correct? Yes. you don't keep up with what is in the side pots seperately, only the total of all bets. Any player who is in a position to bet the pot at this point in the hand is in contention for all of the pots. Also, remember that in tournaments, you are playing true pot. Small blinds and all-ins are not rounded up to the minimum bet/raise.
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seanof30306		#19	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 167 03/07/08 04:24	mmassmedia wrote: PSAND PM me some of your figures for 05 and 06)weeks - hrs -tokes). I worked 07 and the condintions were muched improved from what most other dealers that worked 06 had said. Harrahs seem do get it closer to right than the prevoius year. Being that it was my 1st I don' thave a reference point. '07 was better than '06, but it still wasn't worth the effort to take off work, travel to Vegas, pay for lodging, etc. If you don't have another job, have somewhere to stay in Vegas, etc., then maybe it's worth it, but I didn't make enough over what i would have made staying hom to make it worth it.
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Reno Poker Deal		#20	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 2 03/17/08 03:05	OK guys, sounds like good and bad experiences from different folks. I was hoping maybe some of you who have dealt at the series could PM me with at least a ballpark estimate of what your final pay(including hourly and tokes) was for any years you dealt at the series. I am asking because I dont want to make the trip down to audition if it doesnt make sense financially. I only work a couple of days a week at my current job, but I do OK on tokes. Would appreciate speedy replies as auditions begin Tuesday(just found that out). Thanks in advance guys, thats why I love this forum, good info from many sources.
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