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xcomradestalinx |
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You're saying that Wynn taking tips is gonna decrease the pay of all others? That's absurd, due to the FACT that the direct result of this is pay for
team leads. How is affecting anyone else's pay? People will still tip their waitresses or bartenders or dealers regardless of what Wynn's company
policy on tokes (or any other joint, for that matter). I can't say that I agree with the policy, since it directly affects myself. I feel that Wynn
should pay his floors better out of his own pocket. After all, he's making billions while the rest of us are fighting over the scraps. But the fact is
that he's not gonna do that and that's something that everyone is just gonna have to get used to. Pissing and moaning about it on a message board
won't get you anything, and organizing into unions hasn't helped, since everyone is too afraid or simply just can't afford to strike. This is the
one weapon all laborers have against owners! But it's also the one tactic that's hardest to mobilize for. Everyone needs to be on the same page, and
let's face it, America's workers just aren't as organized as they were in the first half of the 20th century. We're all too concerned with our
automobiles and plasma TV's and our PS3's and our fast food and all that other BS that we really don't need. And also, toke sharing can't be
frowned upon by dealers that barely f***in' talk to their guests, anyway!!! (Dealers that dealt in the ghetto rat and flea joints across the country, come
to vegas and land a gig at Wynn making 90-100k a year and bitch and complain. I'm sorry, but you forgot where you came from!!) A lot of dealers take for
granted the fact that there are many good floor people that will talk to guests and in effect, hustle some money for the dealers, even when they weren't
getting a cut, but no one seems to notice this. I talk to all my guests and I do everything in my power to get that extra bit of cash from each and every
player, but I still am aware of the good floors around me that help in that department. And wasn't that how it was back in the day, here in Vegas? Where
floors were juiced by the dealers after work outta the tokes they earned for the day? So, it's gone back to that basically. We are some of the most
exploited workers in the country, getting paid 6.33 an hour by the house, but making them millions of dollars a month with our labor. You guys think
you're living in a democracy? What about work? Do you work in one? Or is it a fascist institution? You wanna keep complaining about unfair wage and
income distribution, but will gladly contribute tax dollars to fight every popular uprising in the world that combats just that!! You wanna stop this shit,
you wanna earn your fair share, instead of kicking up all the profits your labor produces to the guy at the top that doesn't ever even lift a finger? Than
stop waving a flag and start fighting for socialism. Otherwise, you have no right to complain, since you're just as responsible for it as the ones who
enforce it and profit from it. Slavery never ended people! It's just more elaborate and deceptive. Some of us are house slaves with a better plight,
while others are field slaves who have toil and suffer and barely, if at all, make ends meet. But if you think you're free, the only freedom you
do have is the right to choose who your slave master is, or become one yourself. That's one of the only
differences between today's wage slavery and the chattel slavery of the south and fuedal society. The other difference is that much more profit is extracted from your labor than under chattel slavery, which makes us all super-slaves, of a sort. The sooner
you realize these things, the faster you will at least be able to free your mind. They may have my body enslaved, but I'm one of the most free slaves in
this world, simply because I realize that that's exactly what I am, and so are you!!!
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twentyonedealer |
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i cant believe it when i hear dealers from wynn saying dont work at wynn........i havent seen too many of them quit since they changed the toke policy.......and the reason is simple......you were hired with an expectancy to make about 70,000 a year and wynn and his management exceeded your expectations. his name and his management exceeded your wildest dreams and is bringing you 20,000 a year more than you thought it would.......but you had to go and bite the hand that is feeding you.....and now is coming the encore and the fear that grows in all the dealers. will wynn move the whales to the encore and will the tokes go down 20 to 40 thousand a year. i hope it doesnt. i hope you continue to make the monies that you are making. but it really kills me to hear how bitter and cruel many of you have been to a man that put an extra 20 to 30 thousand a year in your pockets than anyone else on the strip |
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wynnaccount |
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"you were hired with an expectancy to make about 70,000 a year and wynn and his management exceeded your expectations" How do you know what the dealers at the Wynn expected "to make" when they accepted the job? They accepted a job based on a published dealer tip pooling and sharing policy. That policy was changed unilaterally by "wynn and his management". "his name and his management exceeded your wildest dreams and is bringing you 20,000 a year more than you thought it would" The dealers that quit their jobs at the Rio, Caesars and Bellagio, etc., did so with the expectation that they would have an opportunity to score some high tip days only to find out that they are actually earning less than they did before changing jobs as a direct result of "wynn and his management". "but you had to go and bite the hand that is feeding you" Give me a break. You actually believe
that the dealers should be SHEEP, just be glad to have a job, accept the stealing of their tips without a fight and basically kiss "the hand that
feeds" them? Some personal
observations, if you don't mind.
I see that your period key is still sticking - time to change your keyboard? |
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xcomradestalinx |
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You are correct about the dealers that left Bellagio and Caesar's making less money, but even with the toke policy at Wynn, they still make more than Rio
dealers. Bel and Caesar's are probably the only 2 joints in town where you'd get a pay cut by going over to Wynn. To leave the Rio for Wynn is an
increase. Just thought you should know, and I do agree with a lot of what you say, but I come from a place (like so many others out here) where I got stroked
constantly, day in and day out, making peanuts from rich and poor fleas alike, and to get in at the wynn and make 30 to 60k more a year is one of the best
employment transitions anyone in any field can make. I love the fact that unions are starting to become a big topic of discussion in our industry. It's
very important to mobilize the work force, to better combat owning interests. I just wish it was used to it's fullest, most militant extent.
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wynnaccount |
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"To leave the Rio for Wynn is an increase." That is correct TODAY but not what I alleged in my post: "…only to find out that they are actually earning less than they did before changing jobs…" |
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xcomradestalinx |
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But that's not true! How is making 90-100 grand a year less than the 70-80 that they were making...BEFORE CHANGING JOBS!!!???
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wynnaccount |
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Xcomradestalinx quotes from this and other threads "I just applied and might have to move all the way from Chicago to this place (added San Diego, Sycuan) if I land the job" "not like so many of the hacks here in Vegas that leach off of the rest of us" So where exactly do you live and what makes you such an expert on Vegas leaches and/or the earnings by dealers in Las Vegas Casinos? "But that's not true! How is making 90-100 grand a year less than the 70-80 that they were making...BEFORE CHANGING JOBS!!!??? " Only brainwashed people still quote the Wynn propaganda that dealers earn $100,000 per year. The simple answer from someone who has firsthand knowledge and actually lives in Las Vegas: Rio annual earnings for an employee prior to Apr
7005 = $77,200
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scoobydoo90 |
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I hope by the year 7005 that I am earning more than $77,500...
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xcomradestalinx |
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Me too. I doubt casinos will still be around by that time.
I work at both Rio and the Wynn, but am moving back to Chicago very soon. And you don't have to be an expert to know a leech when you see one, it's just obvious. You seem to take a personal offense to my statements about these bottom-feeders, as if you're one of them. What days off did the dealer have at Rio, as opposed to the Wynn? That should be taken into consideration, too. But you may be correct. I mean, everyone can't be all-knowing like yourself, who is obviously never wrong. I feel that never even considering that you may be incorrect shows a greater intelligence than any other being on earth. You're like Stephen Hawking, dude!! Can I kiss your feet, OH, GREAT MESSIAH!!!! |
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wynnaccount |
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"I mean, everyone can't be all-knowing like yourself, who is obviously never wrong." I make it a practice to learn something NEW every day, thus, I am not "all-knowing". I do know what figures printed on a person's W2 reflect and am able to accurately quote the same. By the way, the proper English is - all knowing like YOU, not "yourself". I made a MISTAKE (was wrong) when I typed the year 7005, it should have been 2005. "I feel that never even considering that you may be incorrect shows a greater intelligence than any other being on earth." You have every right to "feel" whatever you want to "feel" just like I have the right to observe: Your statement is pretty astonishing considering that you know absolutely nothing more about me than what you have read in my previous responses to you on this thread. For your information, I do not make statements that "may be incorrect". In fact, I don't waste my time asserting or defending something that I do not know to be fact unless I note that it is my opinion or hearsay. And yes, I take great pride in my attempts to express myself precisely and in the proper format. That doesn't mean that I do not make mistakes such as hitting the 7 instead of the 2. Who is more qualified to make the income comparison, a person who prepares tax returns for Rio and Wynn dealers or you, a part time dealer at the Rio and Wynn (who is moving back to Chicago)? By the way, here is a quote from the Wynn Table Games Handbook, Policy #TG 1013: "1. Table Games employees are not allowed to be employed by a competitor of Wynn Las Vegas." "Can I kiss your feet, OH, GREAT MESSIAH!!!!" I don't know if you CAN (are able to), but you MAY (have my permission to). And please just call me Wynnaccount, I do not need my ego stroked and am too old to consider "dude" a proper title. |
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