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At my joint, it's automatically bought at $20, you put it square on the pass line. If they just randomly chunk $50 on the line after the point is established, it's bought; button on, on the pass line. Either way, if there's a button on it, it's bought. If I just glance at it and say, "point is bought on the line," it's bought. If the juice is up front, he pays, you buy. I don't care if he wants to buy $5 and the point is 6, you buy as long as he's willing to pay the juice up front. I don't care if it's hanging off the line or if it's square on the line, if there's a button on it, true odds; period. "Do you pay it $18 or $20" (that's really $18 or $19 including vig)... is there a button on it?! Are you high? Again, this is a debate? Where you put it is a moot point. I've dealt to fuckers that want your contact with their money at a minimum, I'm not gonna move it. Fuck, I gave them their button to put on their bets themselves. Some of them have their own stash of buttons (buy and lay) and they put them down as they please, booking their own shit accordingly. If you have control of your pass line (and don't), there should be no surprises, anyway. If they don't know what they're doing, you pay them $295 and call it a day, they'll be happy to get that much. In my experience, after that, they'll try to buy everything, even while they're shooting. It isn't placed, it's bought. Put it where you want, just make sure to book it and put a button on it. I don't want to talk to surveillance. I hate talking to surveillance!