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bresner	No encore at the Encore?	Lead	[-]
Member Posts: 475 (04/09/08 11:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I've talked to some people at the Wynn who said there will be no sharing of tips with "team leaders" at the Encore. If that were true doesn't that mean there has been a change of heart on the matter. Or is it too soon too tell????
DOUBLINGDOWN		#1	[-]
Member Posts: 19 (04/10/08 09:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I have also heard alot of rumors about the Encore. I will post some of the rumors and if someone from Wynn can please tell us what is going on that will help to dispel the rumors. Thank You. 1. Floor people at the Encore will be getting paid $150.00 per shift plus a full share of tokes. 2. Dealers hired at the Encore will have to sign an agreement to pool tips with the floor people (Team Leads). 3. Wynn dealers cannot transfer to the Encore with the exception of some p/t dealers. 4. Wynn will move all the whales to the Encore so the Wynn dealers tokes will go down drastically. It seems Wynn dealers will not be able to transfer as retaliation for joing the union. Also if the new hires sign an agreement to pool tokes with the floor before they are hired that will eliminate the dealers trying to unionize that property as they agreed as a term of employment. Then they can't go to the labor board and say there are being forced to share tips meant for them. Last Edited By: DOUBLINGDOWN 04/10/08 02:32. Edited 1 times.
damdave1970	i don't think steve will let that kind of information out.	#2	[-]
Member Posts: 3 (04/11/08 11:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	thats my guess. at this point everything is probably rumor.
bresner	word on the street	#3	[-]
Member Posts: 475 (04/11/08 01:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I've heard that floor will get $315 per day with NO tokes but maybe that would change depending on the court case. On the other hand why would Wynn not cut floor in on the tokes especially when he can let everybody know his policy from the beginning? I think he should have the same policy as the WYNN because if he backs down now then he is admitting that he was wrong. Either way he will have no trouble getting qualified staff. They just won't be coming from Caesars or Bellagio, etc. but would those people go there now anyway???
horn hi	An Idea	#4	[-]
Member Posts: 271 (04/11/08 01:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Pay the floor $300 a day with no tokes, make the dealers sub-contractors and pay them nothingExcept their tokes. Just a thought.
cardmechanic		#5	[-]
Member Posts: 63 (04/13/08 03:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	horn hi wrote: Pay the floor $300 a day with no tokes, make the dealers sub-contractors and pay them nothingExcept their tokes. Just a thought. And that would be no insurance, no retirement plan, no 40 hour weeks, no workman's comp, no unemployment benefits. Why don't we take it a step further and sub-contract the Floor too? Just outsource the entire property.
horn hi	Joke	#6	[-]
Member Posts: 271 (04/13/08 04:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It was ment to be a joke at everyone claming to know what is going to happen. It is no farther fetch than $315 a day and no tokes for floor. Why in the hell would Steve Wynn pay $315 a day, when the closest to that is Over $60 a day lower. Everyone should lighten up.
scoobydoo90		#7	[-]
Member Posts: 82 (04/13/08 06:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The "outsourcing" of Dealers jobs will result in NO BENEFITS having to be paid to outsourced Dealers. No insurance, no retirement, no workman's comp, no vacations! And that would be no insurance, no retirement plan, no 40 hour weeks, no workman's comp, no unemployment benefits. Why don't we take it a step further and sub-contract the Floor too? Just outsource the entire property. Do these two statements seem like they were written by the same person? The first was written by Rumplestiltskin on the twu bulletin board. I remember that he/she outed themselves as havenofear on this board. The second was written by cardmechanic on this thread. I believe that havenofear is still posting on here as cardmechanic even though he/she was banned. Horn hi, cardmechanic is apparently incapable of lightening up. Of course no one knows what will happen at Encore. But since we're speculating, how about floor getting $500 a day and dealers going tft?? Might make working for Wynn a little more appealing... Last Edited By: scoobydoo90 04/13/08 06:10. Edited 1 times.
lvwheeldeal		#8	[-]
Member Posts: 414 (04/14/08 09:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I do not think I could sell my sole to the devil.I do not work at CP,or the BELL,and sure it would be nice to make the extra money but this prick has put his floor and dealers through hell and for what?so he can be the inovator of toke distribution.I could apply I should apply but what he is doing to the proffesion I have chosen make's me want to throw up. A very very long time ago I respected this man as did many, now I find him to be a joke. I suppose it is a matter of principle for me.also I would end up getting fired because when his blind ass walked past my game I would surely flip the bastard off. Oh and btw,who frekken care's if rumplstiltskin,havenofear,and cardmechanic are all one in the same.this banning crap and targeting some and not others is one of the reasons this site has lost so many members so freaken lighten up already.As long as posters are not using real names on here I really do not see what the problem is.This forum was a great way for dealer's and floor to comunicate but over the past year with all the union bashing that went on ,real names that were used,repeated post's of the same damn thing everyday and you know who you are,people have just lost interest.I keep checking back to see if things have gotten better but I must say it is pretty dead around here.
anotherwynndealer	Only true	#9	[-]
Member Posts: 77 (04/14/08 06:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The only true thing is that F/T wynn dealers are not allowed to transfer over. The reason is that we are in contract negotiations and claim it is against the law for any change in work status while a contract is being made. I can't even go over as a busboy. I would love to find out if this is really a law or if some Wynns people just claim it is.
horn hi	Does it matter?	#10	[-]
Member Posts: 271 (04/14/08 06:39) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	"The only true thing is that F/T wynn dealers are not allowed to transfer over. The reason is that we are in contract negotiations and claim it is against the law for any change in work status while a contract is being made. I can't even go over as a busboy. I would love to find out if this is really a law or if some Wynns people just claim it is." First, he can hire whom ever he wants, or should I say not hire. Second, do you really want to go to another casino and work for him there. Knowing he will more than likely have some sort of policy (possibly even the same one) that has to do with tip sharing. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

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