Laying $20 on a 5.

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (denquixote) — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:35:40 GMT

the difference in the table minimums causes the answer to be different. as a dealer you are always interested in educating players and each other in the art of speeding the game along. it is contrary to that motive to suggest laying e.g.$24 behind the 9. first this is a bet that is frequently paid incorrectly and second it takes longer to pay. it is always better when offering a bet to first suggest one color bets. however on a $5 game or smaller i would offer the player the choice of...

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (STLsuit) — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:46:13 GMT

Is right. Taking lay odds is always paid to the nearest proper unit. Prop bets,odds,place bets, etc your house may round up or down. Always make the change and set it up. Don't be lazy. And never shaft the guy on a pass line winner with an improper amount out there.

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (anotherwynndealer) — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:25:59 GMT

For all you people saying that the extra 2 dollars gets nothing.........

100 six bet, 6 rolls........... according to your logic you would pay it 112 (96 is the closest unit) and the extra 4 dollars gets nothing. hmmmm now that isn't going to fly is it.... and 2 dollars does win something... it pays 1.3333333333333 so u round it down to a dollar.

Its really simple, if you put the money up, you pay it.

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (Uhavenoaction) — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:39:17 GMT

Therefore you cannot book improper lays, if the player asks to lay $20 behind the 5 or 9 I would politely tell him that the correct lay is $15 or $30, unless it is a $5 minimum or less.

I said on a $5 game or smaller I might suggest some other option specifically the two options closest to the amount the player gave the dealer, that is either $18 or $21...

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (denquixote) — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:57:55 GMT

Did you read the whole comment? I said on a $5 game or smaller I might suggest some other option specifically the two options closest to the amount the player gave the dealer, that is either $18 or $21. Since the dealer was given the money by the player this was not a case of 16 dollar checks being stacked, it was a case of educating the player to make the correct bet, both in the interest of helping him and of speeding up the game for everyone. You might always remember that a crap game...

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (Uhavenoaction) — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:36:54 GMT

if the player asks to lay $20 behind the 5 or 9 I would politely tell him that the correct lay is $15 or $30

Why not $18 or $21, or $24 or $27 ?

Or you could take it a step further......$19.50, $23.50, $25.50, $28.50...these are ALL proper lays....you may not want to book these stroke bets, but they are proper.

I was always taught that ANY action is good action....because most casinos rounds down. But my casino is...

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (denquixote) — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:08:30 GMT

Even casinos that book improper pass line odds or horn bets etc,. do not book improper lay bets. As an example, $30 horn, 12 rolls and the payoff is $202. 50 and the player loses the breakage, however the player got paid something for each and every dollar bet, i.e. most of his dollars got paid $6.75 while the last 2 only received $6.50, the total payoff being $202. The difference between that and laying improper odds is that in some cases e.g. laying $3.00 behind the 10 or 4, the payoff is...

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (GeeJoon) — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:28:13 GMT

Mr. T is exactly right on this one. I really think you could make a case for either payout. On paper $13 is right, but i've seen places just pay by the unit, 18 gets 12 nothing on the 2 bucks., One thing you can't excuse is the base dealer from the other side sticking her nose in saying "you're wrong, you're wrong" tell her to watch her own end.

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (Geffen Izlude) — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:11:45 GMT

anotherwynndealer wrote:
If you book a 20 lay you pay it 13 dollars. If you don't then you have to change it to 18 and pay it 12. You can't book the extra 2 dollars and not pay it anything, that is stealing.

Exactly...

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (anotherwynndealer) — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:38:55 GMT

If you book a 20 lay you pay it 13 dollars. If you don't then you have to change it to 18 and pay it 12. You can't book the extra 2 dollars and not pay it anything, that is stealing.

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (Geffen Izlude) — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:28:31 GMT

Uhavenoaction wrote:

if the guy put 13$ odds on the passline odds on a 5, would they not pay him 20$? thats my thoughts on the matter.

Not to be a "smarty pants", but $13 pass line odds on the 5 would pay $19.50, or $19 if you dont have 50 cents chips.

Your right... but then again, $20 lay odds doesn't pay $13.00, it pays...

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (Uhavenoaction) — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:27:09 GMT

if the guy put 13$ odds on the passline odds on a 5, would they not pay him 20$? thats my thoughts on the matter.

Not to be a "smarty pants", but $13 pass line odds on the 5 would pay $19.50, or $19 if you dont have 50 cents chips.

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (nbfb42) — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:50:49 GMT

i would pay it 13$ too, i think its the same as taking improper odds on the passline, if the guy put 13$ odds on the passline odds on a 5, would they not pay him 20$? thats my thoughts on the matter.

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (frank1004) — Tue, 27 May 2008 00:46:58 GMT

stuck in biloxi wrote:
If he's laying the 5 why not book 18, charge a $1 juice and give him a dollar change?

He was laying odds.

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (stuck in biloxi) — Mon, 26 May 2008 22:34:26 GMT

If he's laying the 5 why not book 18, charge a $1 juice and give him a dollar change?

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (PitTwo4ever) — Sun, 04 May 2008 06:29:36 GMT

Sounds like your other base dealer is a douchebag. Keep your mouth shut and watch your own side. Besides, simply repeating "you're wrong" is rude and doesn't solve anything.

Having said that, I'd book the 20 lay as 18 if the point or seven came right away, otherwise I'd just tell the guy to drop a buck on the lay.

Any lay not paying at least 5 bucks is a NO BET. (in our house...)

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (lmb711) — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:28:10 GMT

You ain't got shit to say about Mr.T's "no fools" sign, but you're trippin about my 3 eyed smiley! Have another, it'll be twins.

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (Uhavenoaction) — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:13:30 GMT

Base on the other end says it only pays $12, she says $18 gets $12 and $2 left over gets nothing because it's improper.

Tell her to watch her end, and dont worry about it!!

(BTW it pays $13 if you round down).

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (bmf1982) — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:18:27 GMT

i hope that smile face has threee eyes , not I if ...am drunk!!!

Re: Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (bkdlr) — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:22:04 GMT

I have the same problem. I grew up on quarter craps so I say that you are right. Where I work the dealers recently had a 3 dollar place bet on the 4. I paid it 5 dollars. I had other dealers arguing that we could only take 3 dollars. I asked our casino manager if we should be paid 5 dollars. Thank goodness he is another old Vegas person so 5 was right. Ignore these people who have not ever dealt anything but a 5 dollar game. Unless someone other than a supervisor tells you otherwise go ahead...

Laying $20 on a 5.

feeds@yuku.com (frank1004) — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:13:40 GMT

I work at a casino in the Midwest. The other night a player on my end is playing the don'ts, lays $20 on a point of 5. I know it's improper, and maybe I should have noticed, but I didn't. No big deal. 7 out. $13.33, I pay him $13. Base on the other end says it only pays $12, she says $18 gets $12 and $2 left over gets nothing because it's improper. I have no clue where she gets that logic from, I just pay it $13, box wasn't exactly sure. This other base has been...